is russia listening to secretary of state john kerry? >> i don't think russia wants instability on its border in ukraine any more than the united states or european union. there's common interest to stabilize the situation in ukraine. that means this new government has to be committed to unt, reconciling different factions in the country and they have to be committed to freedom and democracy. i hope they are. >> it's interesting because you have a lot of experience having traveled to ukraine on many occasions. but my question to you is if putin was on the same page as the united states, why would he put these troops there? >> there's been some discussion that this is a regularly scheduled exercise. i do not know if that is true or not. i think putin is probably trying to signal to the new government in ukraine, don't mess around with cremia. it's trying to be tough, new guy in the neighborhood. >> why should people here came? >> they should care. number one it's a large country ge grarvegly, the size of france, 150 million people. it was